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Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

I wanted to say a little about the hackers hitting the site. I improved the security and this should reduce this junk. Sorry about the delay in fixing these bugs. Later.

May 30, 2008 2:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Such a thing as a "lifetime stiffer?" Ha, ha, someone please ask 1325 Dale Drive how long they have lived there.

I used to work for Little Caesar's Centre Pkwy. and 1325 Dale Drive, I swear they were always "stiffers."

The only thing is: It has been 12 years since I worked there. The store isn't even there anymore.

--SUpper

June 24, 2008 2:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gave the BW3's guy a monster tip last night, because he took a coupon that was no good!!

--Lude

June 26, 2008 9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so we call black people "canadians" and canadians cant tip! 2 dollars on a 150 dollar check. ran me like crazy. fuck them. i hope they had a blowout on the freeway when they drive home

June 27, 2008 9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to just say a few notable things. First of all to all you cheap Douche bags that say get a real job and stop whining about your tips. If we did that honey then who the hell would wait on your fat ass, "and it probably is very fat",. Also who would cater to you sir and your entirely self-important over-blown ego. I'm a server in Southern Cali. My service is very good. I'm very attentive and realize I'm there to do a job and not socialize. Now my biggest problem is, that we are now in a recession these d-bags and house biotchs w/kids and fake boobs are tipping from 15-20 to 15-10. Yes we're in a recession but I still have bills to pay and work very hard to ensure you have a good experience. If you're not going to care about my tip then I'll find it difficult not to stand by the server station and drink coffee. Don't tip me at all then Bentley driving cheap mtherfckr. Eat your slop and get the hell up out my fxxxing section. If your bill's 100 dollars and I give you great service try giving at least 15.00 dollars. Its getting worse. Used to be folks would come in for their birthdays and expect the whole staff to sing to them. Now they get a solo from me . . . that's it. You cheap fcks are gonna give me 5% and cut corners? Ok I'll cut corners out o my service then. Have a nice day douchebags.

June 27, 2008 9:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

margaux said...
I am doing a survey on tipping for a writing class. Please take it to help me out! Thanks so much!!!

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June 27, 2008 1:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a general statement about tipping. I've never really worked in the service industry and have never had to work for tips, but I know plenty of people who have. I generally tip really well %25-%50 even as much as %100 if I got hooked up with anything. But then there are the times where I have ordered something pretty expensive and just had horrible service. Just because something costs $100 dollars I don't think tip amount should be based on what the price of what was ordered. I'll generally leave a dollar for each alcoholic bevarage that was ordered, if I'm paying at that moment, but then sometimes that ends up being almost a %30 tip, and it might have just been a beer that was poured. Many times I'll wait until the end of the night to tip on that kind of stuff, and leave an appropriate tip then (might be more than $1 per drink, might be a little less, but usually at least %20.) I just think the service industry expects a little too much just because what they are serving has a higher price. I might not tip you the same for $100 worth of sh*t as I would $100 worth of something better. In the end I think it's a ratio of service to product to consumer expectations that earns you the tip you may be looking for. Just my two cents. Good night.

June 27, 2008 1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bethleham PA, Ouch! That is the worst kind of tip, to work your ass off for 1.70. I am sure you would've much rather have never seen the people. Yet, they can always say they tipped you! Ouch!

-Coldstream

June 27, 2008 1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

first name man, last name gay.

This site is what makes america great. The internet is the great leveler of mankind.

No longer can someone put you down because they think you can't do anything about it. You can at least burn 'em up on the internet.

God bless America

June 27, 2008 1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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You think you might need a job, girlfriend, hobby, or something??

Maybe a psychologist..

July 2, 2008 11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear,
She thinks tipping is a FLAWED SYSTEM

The flaw is somewhere in her brain.

July 9, 2008 12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HERE IS ANOTHER FLAWED SYSTEM.

THe MIND OF LESBI1668

July 15, 2008 2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Count me out on that OK city deal. Wow, what a bunch of deadbeats.

Sometimes I like to tip, just to pass around cash to strangers. In my own little way, I think I am helping to prolong a cashless society

July 18, 2008 10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those who don't tip will end up on TipStiffers.com

August 11, 2008 9:39 AM  
Blogger michelle said...

help

August 11, 2008 9:34 PM  
Anonymous MICHELLE/THOMASTON said...

WELL HERES A BALL BUSTER, THERES THIS FAT BITCH THAT COMES IN THE RESTAURANT ALL THE TIME WITH HER 2 YEAR OLD, SHE ORDERS MOZERRLE COROZZA, TURKEY CLUB, FRIES, AND 2 COKES, I GIVE EXCELLENT SERVICE, MAKE SMALL TALK, ACT INTERESTED, TALK TO THE BABY, SHE GETS THE CHECK AND LEAVES 0, I ASK WAS THE SERVICE OK, SHE SAYS OH YES, NEXT TIME SHE COMES IN WITH FIVE OTHER FAT FUCKS AND THGE 2 YEAR OLD BABY AND ORDERS, 3 MOZERELLES, FRIES, TURKEY CLUBS, AND 5 COKES, SHE MUST HAVE COME WITH NO MOINEY, SO HALF WAY THRU FATSO EATING MOST OF HER DINNER, WITH CHESSES AND SAUSE DRIPPING DOWN HER FACE, SHE SAYS MY MOZZERELLE SUCKS, I SAY OK, LET ME GET YOU ANOTHER, WELL THIS ONE SUCKS TOO, BY THE WAY THE WHOLE DINNER SUCKS, WELL, ILL TELL YOU OUR FOOD IS TERRIFIC, AND IT DIDNT SUCK, SHE WAS WORKING HER SHIT SO SHE DIDNT HAVE TO TIP AS USUAL, I TELL HER ITS NOT MY FAULT AND WHAT CAN I DO TO MAKE IT BETTER, BY THIS TIME ALL THE FOOD WAS EATEN, SHE GETS HER CHECK AND AGAIN LEAVES 0, I LOSE IT, FINALLY AFTER OVER 20 YEARS I BLOW MY FUCKING TOP, AND SAY WELL WOULDNT THIS FIGURE, NO TIP, YOU CHEAP FUCK, DONT YOU EVER COME IN THIS PLACE AGAIN, BOY DID IT FEEL GOOD TO LET THAT CHEAP FAT PIG A PIECE OF MY MIND, BY THE WAY SHES NEVER BEEN BACK, ALLELUHAH MICHELLE FROM THOMASTON CT

August 11, 2008 9:41 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

Great post. Sorry about the hideous customer. I love when they threaten not to ever come back again. Come on, don't they have a clue that we don't ever want them to comeback again? It's like saying, "I'm so mad at you I'm going to do your laundry, mow your ward, and fix your car for free. So there, take that." And we just sit there and say, ok. Well, I hope you put her name in the database so the next server might get a heads up. Really, your post is what this site is all about.

August 12, 2008 1:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two things...My Co-Diner tried to pay the bill and I ended up paying it..BTW, I also raised the tip amount!! Yes!!......Second thing. I used to work at this pizza place and people would call and say "Yeah, the last time we ordered we got our pizza and there wasn't very much cheese on it" I was like, yeah, that is why it is the cheapest place in town. We put the exact amount on every pizza, unless we know the person, or it is for us..Also we can put extra cheese on it, but it will cost you.

August 12, 2008 1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This lady called the pizza place and said, "We just got our pizza and it wasn't cut." The manager said, "What do you want me to do, send a driver out with a knife?"

August 12, 2008 1:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet Michelle is hot.

August 12, 2008 1:14 PM  
Anonymous michelle/thomaston said...

FUNNY THOUGHT JUST ENTERED MY MIND, NOT ABOYT TIPS, BUT WHEN I FIRST STARTED I WAS COCKTAIL WAITRESSING, OVER 20 YEARS AGO, PRETTY YOUNG ANS GREEN AT THE TIME, ILL NEVER FORGET WHEN I SPILLED A MARGARETTA ON THIS GUYS PANTS, I MEAN BETWEEN HIS LEGS, HE WAS WITH HIS WIFE, AND WITHOUT THOUGHT I TOOK MY TOWEL AND STARTED WIPING THE STAIN OFF FOR HIM, HIS WIFE ALMOST KILLED ME, IM SURE HE LIKE IT THOUGH, SHE TOOK OVER FROM THERE, I WAS A KID AT THE TIME SWO NO THOUGHT WENT INTO IT AS FAR AS ME CLEANING THE MESS.I WONDER HOW THE TIP WAS???????i guess it depends on who tipped me, the wife or the husband,ha!

August 12, 2008 8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We use to get phone calls from people and They would yell in the background..."OKAY, I GOT THE PIZZA PLACE ON THE PHONE, WHAT DOES EVERYBODY WANT?"

August 13, 2008 9:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What in the Hell are these people in Hoffman Estates ordering that is 100 damned dollars??

August 13, 2008 4:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haven't seen anything from the Hacker for awhile....Must be doing the 100 Second Freestyle on the Couch.

August 14, 2008 3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What impact did the rest of the World have on the Chinese as far as tippiing goes??? I have heard tipping is kind of a touchy issue in China.

It appears the gov't doesn't like the idea of all that potentially unreported exchange of cash.

August 25, 2008 11:07 AM  
Anonymous MICHELLE/THOMASTON said...

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHERE ARE ALL THE WAITSTAff BLOGGERS?I MEAN I KNOW THERE ARE TONS OF HORROR STORIES OUT THERE, WHY IS EVERYONE SO AFRAID OF SHARING WITH US. SOMEHOW WE NEED TO PASS THE WORD THAT THIS SITE EXISTS. KEEP ON BLOGGING, EVEN IF ITS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY BLOGGED, LETS KEEP THIS SHIP FROM SINKING MAN

August 26, 2008 9:23 PM  
Anonymous B Green said...

B Green retorts:

I am a victiim of a cruel joke. I have NOT been to Bogey's Steakhouse during the entire months of July and August. I am viewed by the work staff as a proper tipper ( I tip 20% because the math is easier) I rarely have a tab in the 90-100 range because I cocktail at Bogey's and that tab would have me doing the knee walk.

August 28, 2008 3:18 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

To b green. No biggy. I'll take your word for it. But I am a little curious. How did you hear about this site and what made you check to see if you were on the list?

To Michelle/thomaston. Thanks for the encouragement. The more people that know the better the site will get. I thought of putting up a message forum but I'm not sure how much it would get used. It's something to think about. Thanks again.

August 28, 2008 7:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ever see 2 & 1/2 men where Charlie was low on money and only gave the pizza guy two bucks? The pizza guy just looks at him and says, "Well...we had a good run."

September 2, 2008 2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so i recently just started working at a different applebee's in a different town and the tips are TERRIBLE- it's normal for everyone to sometimes get stiffed, and servers get all excited if they get anything above 15%.
I have been finding it so hard to pay bills that before I never had to think about (at the old place, tips were great). Everyone at this new place says,"yeah, well this town is poor you know"), and I say, "well ppl just shouldnt come out to eat. you are ruining my day and waisting my time."
So I was thinking about writing an op-ed in the local paper saying how ppl honestly should just not go out to eat if you cant afford it, and we would rather lose your lousy business and watch u eat at mcdonalds for the price you can afford than come here!
I dont know what to do. I just worked a double today and was getting miserable tips: like $5-on- a-$65-kind-of-tip . And I know I am a great server personally, and have been told so by many guests and managers.
Anybody have any ideas?
~up here in Washington

September 13, 2008 11:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Washington,
You could find a more upscale restaurant. Also, you could change your 'venue' a little. In other words..What about room service at a nice hotel, or steak delivery. Could you commute to a different town, that has an upscale place to work? I made good money, delivering pizza (in a really good part of town), delivering steaks, and working Room service at the Mariott. I also made good cash working catering gigs on the side.

September 16, 2008 2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also Washingon, Check events in cities nearby. Working at seasonal race tracks, Golf tournaments or anything like that can supplement your income. I know a Bartender that made $3000 in two weeks at a seasonal horse racing track and it was mostly cash.

September 16, 2008 2:05 PM  

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

One time these people pissed me off so bad, by not tipping me, I gave them a yard job.

June 28, 2007 12:13 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

Yea you did. I usually just prefer to hit the horn as I'm driving off but I am willing to learn.

June 28, 2007 6:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

while i like the idea of this site, i doubt that it's legal to publish people's full names and home addresses on a website like this. don't be suprised if you get in some major trouble.

July 4, 2007 10:56 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

I'm not too worried. Name and address is public information. Also, the database is just like a large public bulletin board. I don't control what people say or who they say it about.

July 5, 2007 12:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Try and put an option for details about the scumbags, such as their personality, the weather, etc. Also, I think the date option is kind of pointless. The ones I've listed from here in Omaha are chronic stiffers, who have stiffed in several different months.

July 5, 2007 4:08 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

You might have a good idea about a field for the weather. As for a more detailed description of the tightwads, I was hoping that the Lousy Blog would meet that need.

July 5, 2007 6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So many cases of no tip or pennies left as a tip. Usually this means that that the customer is stating that service was lacking, not that they are cheap. Cheap tips is usually between 5-10%. Don't shoot the messenger as I'm a server and have never been stiffed with a zero tip.

July 7, 2007 11:58 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

Almost all of the bad tips currently on the database are from pizza drivers. Unfortunately, it’s quiet common for a pizza driver to get $0.00, which is partly why I started this site. While the site is for anyone who lives off of tips, it just got its start with mostly delivery drivers.

July 8, 2007 12:57 AM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

Someone posted a bad tip from a guy named Todd Phenniger and the state was listed as bz? Not sure if this is a real post or what. If you put it up send me an email. Later.

July 8, 2007 4:57 AM  
Anonymous 500lbGorilla said...

My biggest pet peeve is getting hand fulls of change.. no cup.. no bag.. just a hand full of change. Now when people do this to me I don't raise my hand to take it, I make them get something to put it in before I'll take it.

July 11, 2007 2:53 AM  
Anonymous 500lbGorilla said...

They finnaly charged the people who were involved in the 2003 incident where a delivery driver was jumped, had a bomb attached to his neck and was forced to rob a bank; which went very unsuccessfully. The man's last moments were caught on tape as he pleaded for his life and cuffed and on his knees. I hope these people have a cell with someone who loves pizza and rape.

July 11, 2007 3:06 AM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

I remember that story with the pizza guy and the bomb. I also remember that the police blamed him for the longest time. I guess it was so strange they didn't know what to think. I think that the perpetrators where watching entirely to much TV.

July 11, 2007 8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always remember to shake up the customer's cans of coke, 2-liters, etc. If they tip you, tell them to wait awhile before they open them. If they don't tip you, well......

July 17, 2007 1:06 PM  
Anonymous madinmyrtlebeach said...

I don't know about the person that has never been stiffed but I get the pennies thing all the time and my best customers watch in amazement because they know that I didn't deserve to get stiffed.

July 23, 2007 8:30 PM  
Anonymous madinmyrtlebeach said...

I've also noticed that rednecks with mullets don't usually tip. They want to order the most difficult drinks because it has a cool name and they stiff me every time. Also 99% of the customers who order a frozen drink don't tip. I hope they get a brain freeze!

July 23, 2007 8:38 PM  
Anonymous madinmyrtlebeach said...

Excellent site but more information on said incidents would be excellent. For instance i'm a bartender and most of the time I only know the customers first and last name. Maybe you could include a description catagory so the stiffee can make fun of the stiffer by saying that maybe they could use a new wardrobe or a dentist instead of a drink.

July 23, 2007 8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This woman lived very close to the store but did not tip. Finally, I started getting her pizza there in 15 minutes. However, the pizza was ice cold because I held it out the window the whole time and never put it in a delivery bag (until I rang the doorbell). She eventually quit ordering and we were both happier.

July 24, 2007 11:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with holding the pizza out the window is that it wants to act like a wing. If you don't hold on to it tighly it will take off on you. Then you got to go back to the store and get a new one.

July 24, 2007 6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess the rednecks are saving their pennies so they can afford to date their first cousins.

July 24, 2007 6:21 PM  
Anonymous madinmyrtlebeach said...

I love it when a guy gives me a $1 tip after ordering 12 shots for all his buddies and then has the balls to ask me if it is a good tip. I want to say "I'm going to pay more in taxes on the sale I just made than your lousy tip will cover." But since I get more people that stiff than tip then I'll take what I can get and say "Thank you," with a very disgruntled tone.

July 30, 2007 5:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes shots come before floss

August 2, 2007 1:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One time this lady called the pizza place & I knew she didn't tip, so I said (in a real nice voice), " Oh, hi I remember you, you gave me a good tip last time!"
When I delivered her pizza she still didn't tip me, but that was the last time she ordered from us & we were both happier.

August 2, 2007 1:03 PM  
Anonymous SlickWilly said...

I have a bad habit of making people compromise for a credit I never intend to give them.

August 4, 2007 4:15 AM  
Anonymous 501lbGorilla said...

Ouch... .38 cents at Central Baptist. I love their new setup. I'm waiting till the chick security guard is working and I'm going to try and run to the elevator to see if she'll tackle me. Gotta work for those pennies.

August 5, 2007 4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love this new site!

August 15, 2007 3:15 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

Thanks for the love.

August 19, 2007 3:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, Ben Gordon of the Chicago Bulls, comes into our place on a regular basis. He is by far the worst tipper of all the sports figures who dine with us, and we have quite a few. Last night his bill was $165.00 and he left his server $20.00. In the past he has had bills even higher, and tipped less!! We have have celebs like Michael, Lovie, Ditka, the entire defensive line of the Bears (at once), TV personalities, and entertainers who take care of our servers very well. Would someone please explain to Mr. Gordon that he is getting quite a reputation, and that we are now flipping coins to see who gets stuck with him next!

August 24, 2007 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great post. It's alway funny to hear about rich celebs who are jerks.

August 24, 2007 12:00 PM  
Anonymous 500lb Gorilla said...

Next time Gordon comes in suggest the new Michael Vick Chinese restaurant down the street.

August 25, 2007 8:59 AM  
Anonymous 500lbGorilla said...

John Sanders.. that dirty bastard.

August 30, 2007 4:28 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

I did a Google search of a couple of the names on the lousy tipper database and some of the results were links to the database. One of the names I searched actually had its first Google result pointing to lousytippers.com. It's only a matter of time until someone Googles themselves and finds their name on our little site.

August 30, 2007 10:58 PM  
Anonymous 500lb Gorilla said...

Hmmm...

According to Wikipedia in Okemo Michigan, there is only a 4.2% chance of a person being black and if their a woman, they make almost $20,000 less a year than their male counterparts.

I wait in eager anticipation for the day some non-tipping troglodyte finds their name on the website.

September 3, 2007 5:06 AM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

Someone posted black women as a bad tipper. I had to delete the post as this seems to be more of a social commentary. Please find her name and repost. All stupid asshole jerks need to be treated equally.

September 3, 2007 2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

meh

September 5, 2007 8:43 PM  
Anonymous 500lb Gorilla said...

One of the only things worse than not getting tipped is having to endure the cat shit smell that has permiated through the door. How should I add this one DisgruntaledDriver.
1508 Kelly Cir, Lexington, Ky, $20 order $3 tip plus overwhelming smell of cat shit.
I can't help but wonder if some driver has gone there and thrown up in the bushes.

September 16, 2007 1:42 PM  
Anonymous 500lb Gorilla said...

The taint licker at 704 Jaeduke paid with a $100 and took most of my change. Maybe he thinks my car runs on rainbows and thank yous. My car runs on the blood of Iraqis(32 Iraqis highway, 25 city).

The hamster stuffer at St Joe, stole 2 bucks from the tip and kept it in his pocket. He wasn't a very good theif, the money was sticking out of his pocket. I should of picked his pocket when I had the oppurtunity and taken the money.
Oh well..
These people can go merrily fuck themselves with sand paper dildos.

:) I feel better now.

September 17, 2007 1:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. I guess we'll have no problems if we establish a "Lousy Service" site for those of us who have to stand up and wave our hands to get the attention of the crowd of servers who stand chatting away amongst themselve. Or the ones who disappear after slamming your plate on the table and never check back. I've made sure that when I do not feel service is worth the tip, I tell the manager on the way out why, in addition to the server.

September 17, 2007 10:00 AM  
Anonymous The Consumer said...

How about you get a better job instead of complaining about tips. I don't gett tipped for doing my job! You get paid to do your job, why should the consumer pay an additional amount for something you are SUPPOSED to be doing.

September 17, 2007 11:17 AM  
Anonymous Another Consumer said...

What I love is when you go into a restaurant that automatically imposes a 15% tip and therefore, the server feels they can ignore that table because the tip is already a foregone conclusion. THEN at the end of the meal, they are expecting an additional tip ON TOP of the mandatory 15 percent.

It used to be that 10 percent was considered to be an "appropriate" tip. Then somewhere along the line, it became 15 percent. I just read somewhere now that it should be 20 percent.

The cost of food in restaurants goes higher and higher so if a 10 percent tip was appropriate 15 years ago, then why is 20 percent suddenly the "new standard". The whole point of a tip as a percentage of the tab is that it grows with inflation. But servers tips are growing faster than the pay of traditionally paid individuals AND they probably hide a bunch of it from uncle sam.

Y'all are really bitter and I agree with the consumer who said that maybe you should get a real job rather than whining over the relatively small minority of bad tippers.

And by the way, could it be that your service sucked as badly as your attitudes do and THAT is why you got stiffed?

September 17, 2007 12:12 PM  
Anonymous a CUSTOMER said...

what is the right tip for a server who takes 45 minutes to get your salad out? SIDE salads. Or who doesn't bring all the food you ordered...even after you bring it to their attention. Twice. Or who can't figure out your bill correctly after you have sat thru the nightmare? Or the one you have to hunt down and then gets upset cuz the only person you can get the attention of is her manager when you haven't seen her for 15 minutes? I had an hour lunch which turned into 2 hrs because of POOR POOR service. Do I get to publish her name and place of employement? The place won't give me her address but you want to publish ours?

If you are dependent upon your tips to survive then act like it. Bring my food, hot and quick. If there is a problem in the kitchen then tell me, I am understanding but not when you ignore me. DO YOUR JOB. My boss doesn't pay me because I show up, he pays me because I work.

September 17, 2007 12:21 PM  
Anonymous Customer said...

I have to completely agree. I am generally a good tipper IF the service calls for it. But I have kids and if I have to wait an hour for their food to come out and my waiter/waitress has a sucky attitude about it then why should I tip good. I understand bad days, we ALL have bad days but don't take it out on the paying customer. This site is insulting to the rest of the people who probably did have bad service and didn't tip well because of it. You are in customer service so your attitude is dependent on what you deserve. If you rely on tips to make a living then do your job right and don't get pissed off at us and publish our names because you get a bad tip because your service sucks.

September 17, 2007 1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me start by saying that I am a pretty generous tipper. I rarely tip less than 20%.

But it galls me somewhat to see these ridiculous posts about pizza delivery people being upset over not getting 15-20%. I read excuses like paying for gas, etc..

I used to deliver for a pizza chain. Not only did I get an hourly wage, but I also got a mileage allowance, and my tips. Granted, I did get stiffed by some inconsiderate morons, but I also didn't expect 20%

If I go to a restaurant, my waitstaff is providing a dining "experience." They bring me water, bring me my food, see to it that I am enjoying my meal, etc..

Why would I expect to pay a delivery person who shows up at my door, hands me a pizza, and takes my money to get 20%, especially since I've already paid a $1.50 delivery charge?

Granted, I almost always pay the pizza delivery person at least 20%, but it pisses me off that you expect that for providing me 30 seconds worth of service.

September 17, 2007 1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ever stop and wonder if maybe you are just a bad waiter/waitress?

Good waitress - 25-30%
OK waitress - 20%
Bad waitress - 5-10%

September 17, 2007 1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have, at times, left 2 cents as 'tip'. This was because the service was horrible. Several times the bus boy was diligent in keeping the drinks refilled and the bread basker full but no sign of the wait staff for long periods on end. This was not in a place that was overwhelmed and understaffed. The wait person could be clearly seen gabbing with other wait staff.

If you find yourself on the short end of a tip perhaps you should look in the mirror. Above all else, do not make it miserable for the next customer. (I gave the bus boy $5 as I left).

September 17, 2007 1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this site is awesome.

I don't work for TIPS. But, as a customer, I will always TIP atleast 20%. If someone pisses me off, sometimes it will be more, (ie, I'll leave $7 on a %16 meal) and if I really loved the service I have tipped up to 40%. Thank you for your work ladies and gnetlemen!

September 17, 2007 10:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with many things said on both sides of tipping. I have worked for tips and found that there are people that stiff or tip poorly no matter how good the service. They are either 1) total assholes or 2). they are broke with credit cards killing them in interest, they work their ass off a good part of the year just to pay for $130 dollar hammers, and to build schools and bridges in oil rich countries or to pay able bodied people not to work, they are one broke transmission from not being able to pay their electric bill but on Friday night they want to give their family a treat and order Pizza, most likely the two mediums for $9.99 with the coupon.... hoping they get paid Monday or the check they just wrote is going to bounce Tuesday.

I do not know all the bad going on in peoples lives, and I am not going get so wrapped up in worrying about a tip to pass judgement on people, who probably would have left more if they felt they had it. Now rich people, (who we all know are really crappy tippers) I have less patience for. Yes, they may be rich because they are ultra conservative with their money, but come on... they should come off a couple dollars for a working person trying their best to please them... they probably have three dollars in their ashtray of their car.


Now on the other hand, although I have worked for tips and know the sting of being stiffed even though I did everything I could do to please them, I think the tip range is 0 to 100%. I have given tips as high as 100% or more... and I have given 0. I do not have a set number based on someones opinion about what is appropriate. I tip based on service. My meal can be slow, cold and bad, but a waiter can still get a great tip because they are friendly, helpful, and are trying... My meal could be hot, fast and tasty but served by a unfriendly asshole that beleives it is their God given right to get a tip.

I agree with the people saying that tips should be related to service. Service in America has become so bad, because our standards of good service continue to go down. We now are happy if our order is anywhere near being correct, is at least warm and served within 45 minutes or ordering.

If you work for tips, you will get low tips and stiffs occassionally. If you are getting many of them.... then you may just suck as a service provider and should just go on welfare...

September 17, 2007 11:14 PM  
Anonymous It's my dinner and i'll tip if i want to (because the service is good, not b/c someone tells me to) said...

This site is a joke. If you are going to post someone's name and address for not tipping, you should have to post your own name and who you work for so they know to stop doing business with you. then, you'll both be happier.

September 18, 2007 3:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C'mon people, everyone knows that a waitressing job, a pizza delivery job, (or other such occupations where gratuity is used to subsidize a poor wage) are only meant to provide a temporary source of income while you are looking for a better job, going to school, or maybe earning a little extra cash on the side if your main job is slowing down. Anyone who is trying to make a living wage (and trying to get ahead) at these occupations will only discover that it is simply not possible. Making lousy money? Find another job. Getting consistently bad tips? Look in the mirror. Expecting 20% for mediocre service? Think again. I understand that waitressing is a physically demanding job, however, in America, most people are not paid well for manual labor. Think you should have a high hourly wage just because you can walk or drive fast and fling food on a table with a smile? Try again. Honestly speaking, it is time for Americans who utilize the food industry to take it back.

1. Quit eating out every day. This will slim your waistline. Learn to cook and maybe even have a small garden in your backyard.
2. Eat out only on special occassions or maybe every other weekend. Limit your visits to restaurants. This will save you money and lessen the likelihood that you will receive poor service. It will also send a message to the food industry that "we can take you or leave you".
3. Keep in mind that tipping is a gratuity, only a gift. "Thanks for the great service". It's not legally required, especially if the service was less than stellar. It is not meant to subsidize someone's inability to negotiate a better wage or better job. Making only 2.15 an hour? It's YOUR FAULT for not taking the time to look for a better job. Can't find a good job in your area? MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
4. Also keep in mind that if you find your name on this site, you have so many legal options it's not funny. I think that customers should have a blog or website where names of lousy servers and their restaurants are posted for everyone to see, including their addresses. Think that server will still be employed? Think again.

September 18, 2007 5:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You servers forget that part of what tipping is about is to allow the customer to tell you whether or not you did a good job as a server. If you are a jerk with a lousy attitude, you can bet that my tip will reflect my perception of your service and your flippant mouth. So if you are a regular poster here on this website, maybe you are a lousy server. Perhaps you ought to consider another line of work where your attitude towards your job and your customers is not so much of a factor in your pay.

September 18, 2007 1:15 PM  
Anonymous 500lb Gorilla said...

Dear Customer,

While I personally don't plan to make a career out of delivery driving, it is one of the highest paying jobs in the food service industry($15 - $25 and hour). It is also one of the deadliest jobs you can have period(I doubt gynocolgist and CPAs are constantly worried about being robbed, shot, or getting in a car wreck). When you've been driving the whole night trying to maintain that line between fast service and not getting a ticket, and a disrespectful customer answers the door with "What took you so long?", it can frustrate like no other. What I believe most bad tippers and bad customers in general don't understand is what it takes to deal with the whole while doing the best for each person. It probably took 45 minutes to get the salad because the other 50 patrons of the restaurant whose order were taken before are being filled too. In a sit-down restaurant it is often the speed of the cooks that will determine how long it takes for your food to get to you, not the server. For delivery drivers it is often traffic, unforeseen obstacles, and customers who are not prepared, or customers with special needs such as hospitals who create delays that make it difficult to handle things in a timely manner. The constant conundrum of delivery is, it is often the orders that come after the one the customer placed that determines how long it will take to arrive to that customer. Some customers just can't comprehend this and feel justified in shooting the messenger when they have to wait 15 minutes longer than they were quoted. From our perspective on the service side, asking for free food or not tipping because we were unable to predict the future is ridiculous. Now.. if a driver or server comes to you smoking a cigarette, talking on their cell phone and doesn't bother to greet you and just tells you the total, grunts and goes on their way, that is bad service and does deserve a bad tip and you should complain. The next time you feel your service is bad take a minute and look at the situation and ask yourself if it is the servers fault or the drivers fault and not just something that is beyond any of their control.

September 18, 2007 2:28 PM  
Anonymous 500lb Gorilla said...

First off..

I made some comments the other day that were a bit harsh. Sorry, to guy on Jaeduke, and the nurse at St Joe. I do maintain the nurse was a thief and will have his bad karma in due time.

Second... The anon post with the 4 point list at the end.

1) You claim there are legal ramifications for posting publicly available information, order totals and tip amounts. I'm interested, could you please post the laws that you are specifically referring to or an online link.
2) You suggest to create that which you think is illegal.
3) Your right we should do something about the food service industry. "Fast Food" has helped destroy this nation and it populous by making bad food more popular and appealing in price and taste helping only to further line the pockets of the rich elite. They are selling heart disease and cancer so their cronies can sell you the cure.
4) "Can't find a better job, move somewhere else." If you can't find a decent job that allows you to save money, where is the money that will allow you to move to where a decent job is, going to come from? Living from paycheck to paycheck is a very real situation for many people. As long as nothing ever goes wrong for you your, fine, but should life happen(a child gets sick, are car breaks down) the only way to get ahead as your average middle to lower class person is to put yourself in to debt or work so much to a point that it is unhealthy.

5) I don't think I should be paid well because I drive fast, I should be paid well because you choose to have another person take on the risk of and cost of bringing you one of the 3 necessities of life. A few dollars from each person 2-4 times a month doesn't make a big difference in the their overall financial picture, but a couple of stiffs every day can change the weekly income of a driver drastically. If a driver makes (my average)$3.50 a delivery normally and never gets stiffed and then for a period of a month 2 customers a day give no top, at the end of the month (assuming a 5 day work week and 4 week month), these people have affected the drivers income by $140.

September 18, 2007 3:35 PM  
Blogger Disgruntled Driver said...

So many comments, so little time. To 500lb Gorilla and the cat pee situation. It's not a tip violation but the world should hear the shit (oops, piss) we often must endure.

To the individual who wanted to post a bad server website, go ahead - I won't be on it.

To the consumer who says get a better job; it's just a matter of time until you end up on the site. Anyone who would say that is so rude and thoughtless they are likely to be the type of person who leaves bad tips on a regular basis.

Many people in the service industry are working to better they're future, going to school or working a professional day job and delivering pizza on the weekends to help pay off staggering education bills. They don't expect to get rich in their present jobs but it does offer the advantage of a flexible schedule and they exchange this for lower pay. With that said, do you go to work and not get paid for it? I don't think so. Tips are not legally required but they are socially required. Why do you think there are so many bad tippers now squealing like stuck pigs. If they weren't so embarrassed (because they know it is socially expected) they wouldn't be so vocal about their protestation. It's not a gift it is an expected payment for the service I provide.

Finally, I would like to address the blame the victim crowd. Most servers/drivers do everything within there control to provide the best service possible. It is in their self-interests. With that said, yes there are sometimes that a server gives poor service. When a server is purposely giving bad service or is needlessly rude it is correct to leave a less than stellar tip. I've done it myself. If I've ever had any doubt that my service was lacking I would not post the bad tipper online. And every server/driver I know feels the same way. Furthermore, even if it was not my fault (eg., cooks were backed up) and the customer received unreasonably slow service, again I wouldn't post their name. No, if you find your name on the database it's not because you failed to tip a bad server, it's because you're a jerk and you leave bad tips on a consistant basis. See you on the net.

September 19, 2007 1:12 AM  
Blogger tymac2315 said...

I stumbled on this site by accident as I was reading an article on travel on the MSN site.
I have worked in restaurants(sit down/ fine dining) for roughly 13 years of my life and in "cube-land" corporate America for four or five years.
For quite a few people that work in the food industry it is a temporary "thing" to get by or help pay for school. Like others I can only speak about my experiences, and those temporary people can be a mixed bag, no disrespect meant to anyone. Some of them are just going through the motions of the day and others are making the best of their situation knowing that positive changes are coming. I think it is a great thing for someone to do who wants flexibility and some quick money, but those people should not expect to make the money that a knowledgeable career server makes. Just like an entry level person working in the mail room of a corporation doesn't make as much as others higher up on the ladder.
As with many options that are presented to us on a daily basis, working in a restaurant is a choice for some and a necessity for other. A scary reality is that a very high percentage of people that work for the minimum wage (in the neighborhood of 65+%) are trying to feed a family and just survive, not a picture that is painted for us that it is a wage that is paid mainly to school kids for their first jobs. There aren't any relocation bonuses in the food industry either although those rumors have been passed around for years! For people to tell them to "simply get another job" that isn't up to another person to control how others live their lives. If the restaurant food business doesn't work for people they normally don't last long at any establishment that wants to grow it's business. That also goes for newly opened restaurants, most fail anywhere from with in 9 months to 3 years. There is a bit of "survival of the fittest" in the restaurant industry.
If customers who do not work for tips want the pay scale changed, that's great. What is the solution to making that change? Labor costs for a restaurant can make up a very high percentage of a business' overhead. Most people don't realize what goes into making a meal for them. The number of people that work behind the scenes in restaurants far outweighs the front of house staff. I think that if the European formula of higher wages and very little tipping was instituted you would see more and more fledgling restaurants that are trying to build a business fail very quickly. While some would argue that the "free market" would still be okay others could see this as one more regulation that a business would have to follow.
While I found some comments from both servers and customers amusing, I think that people need to relax a little on both sides. Expectations of service and tipping should be a little more in line. For example, if a customer comes in, says they are in a hurry and need to be in and out in 30 minutes, but they order an entree that has a prep time of at least 20 minutes, plus a n appetizer. I believe that it is the servers responsibility not only to the customer but also the restaurant that employs them to impart a little bit of knowledge and communicate with the customer to head off a bad situation before it potentially gets worse. Not in a rude manner obviously, you are as a server after all the face of the establishment, after the information has been given and the customer still decides that his or her choices are fine, let the kitchen know to put a rush on the items and also let the manager know so you can have another set of eyes on the kitchen and an "authority figure" back you up if that rushed customer becomes upset with the time issues. Which has happened to me personally before. I made an effort to give great service to everyone that walked through the door and sat in my section or at my bar. Like anyone, I had my share of off nights where things didn't go quite as planned and my tips reflected that, other nights my timing with the kitchen was working like a very expensive Swiss watch and my tips reflected that also. I am not bitter about the bad days, because in a game of averages somewhere along the road my lower nights were covered by higher nights. In both examples I have received low and high tips, but like I said they average out. My thoughts about this site is that some times you are ticked that you give people the "red carpet, butt kissing till your lips are chapped service", they tell you that you have made their nights and hope to be back soon, then you open up the check presenter book and there is your 5% tip for two hours of work/entertaining. That is the part that people outside the service industry don't get, each server has a limited amount of space each night to make their money. For a person that goes in to a "desk" job, punches a clock in and out, their time is mapped out for them as well as the expectations of his or her boss. If a report doesn't quite get finished it may be put off until tomorrow, or maybe that person will stay late to get it done. When a restaurant closes for the night the opportunity to make tip money for the night stops the second the "Open" sign is turned off. Granted there are those servers that can't manage themselves well enough to maintain a good level of service, and their tips generally reflect that. However as with most people in the world it is hard to take a good look at yourself and take the blame when it is your's alone.
Going to a comment by some of the customers, I do agree that the level of service has gone down in this country, and not just in restaurants but across the board. The responsiblity for that issue lies with all of us, not only in our expectations of others but of ourselves as well...
One other point that customers often don't think about is that eventhough they are having a bad day, is it right for them to take it out on someone who serves you a dinner plate that has a crooked green bean on it? If a server is rude or doing a terrible job talk to the manager or owner of the establishment to correct the problem and enjoy the rest of your night. That coin has two sides to it also though customers, you don't necessarily have someone coming in to sit at your desk on a daily basis and complain that your pencils aren't sharp enough and then to top it off complaining to your boss that you shouldn't be paid for the last hour because they don't like -------.
My choice to work in the restaurant industry provided me with good money to go along with a flexible schedule that afforded me to enjoy my hobbies and have a good life. Customers out there, just remember the next time you look down your nose at a person because they are a server in a restaurant, they might really enjoy what they do and some of them can make just as much money as a person that works in an office for 60+ hours a week in half that time. As far as the servers go, you need to remember that you are paid to do your job by th